Others: what do we know about the white walkers?

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  • Xuất bản 01 Th10, 2015
  • The Others, or white walkers, are one of the biggest mysteries in Game of Thrones / ASOIAF. What are white walkers, and what are wights? How can white walkers be killed? And what do they want?
    This video contains major spoilers for Book 5 / Season 5, including spoilers from the show that aren’t in the books.
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    7:56 George Martin has said that Westeros and Essos are not connected (SSM 1207). That was back in 2002, though - maybe he hadn't written the Yi Ti and Five Forts stuff yet...

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  • TBG
    TBG Năm trước +376

    *bill Wurtz esque jingle* molotov cocktails

    • TheNecromancer6666
      TheNecromancer6666 24 ngày trước

      A Ta K with a flamethrower?

    • Cal
      Cal 4 tháng trước +2

      +Elias Rais-El-Fenni it was likely a random typo. bill wurtz doesn't capitalize any part of his name of VN-plus but there is always a chance of autocorrection

    • Elias Rais-El-Fenni
      Elias Rais-El-Fenni 5 tháng trước

      not to be that guy, but why did you capitalise the "W" and not the "B"?

    • Jimmy Seaver
      Jimmy Seaver 7 tháng trước +1

      Logic aside, you win.

  • jett
    jett Giờ trước

    What happened to this guy's voice

  • George Dobson
    George Dobson 19 giờ trước +1

    Funny how it literally ends with a stupid war between good and bad

  • William Trinh
    William Trinh 20 giờ trước +1

    Man these videos did not age well. I’m so sorry

  • Run
    Run Ngày trước +1

    Arya stabs night king ending 8 seasons of buildup. Zero explanation afterwards

  • David Streicher
    David Streicher Ngày trước +1

    "Season 8 sends its regards."

  • Kimmy Pfeiffer
    Kimmy Pfeiffer Ngày trước

    i really wanted to see things from the night king's perspective and feel sorry for him and have it resolved differently than the good guys vs the bad guys

  • Nish Limbu
    Nish Limbu Ngày trước +1

    I like how the war with others in the past lasted for a generation while the war in season 8 lasted for one night

  • LaurAgony
    LaurAgony Ngày trước

    Martin shoult shut his fat ass about LOTR.And that s solid advice, don't you think?

  • Einar Blood-Axe
    Einar Blood-Axe 2 ngày trước

    The seasons make complete sense to me. Honestly its a just a slower, or larger or both, revolution around the planets sun. That would create longer summers and winters.

    • Rodrigo Nunes Malaquias
      Rodrigo Nunes Malaquias 18 giờ trước

      the weird thing isnt most that its long, its that is long and inconsistent, its not like 5 years each, some may last a decade or just a year and shit

  • Einar Blood-Axe
    Einar Blood-Axe 2 ngày trước

    Maybe the others were an ancient clan of humans thousands of years before even the first men came to westeros. Maybe they went further and further north in the chase of powerful ice magics and necromancy. Then they became something else all together, liches, necromancers so powerful that they died and ressurected themselves to maximize their power. It would explain why they can only create more through ritual and not intercourse.

  • Sumaita Saffoon
    Sumaita Saffoon 2 ngày trước

    Hello, sir, have you watched the finale? Haha

  • Fuzzy Dunlop
    Fuzzy Dunlop 2 ngày trước

    "The Others take our Onion." - Allard Seaworth, warrior poet.

  • frostieisme
    frostieisme 2 ngày trước +2


  • ThinkAboutItMan,InACosmicSortaWayWeAreAllAssholes

    A pointless diversion from the game of thrones according to dumb & dumber.

  • Matthew Vido
    Matthew Vido 2 ngày trước

    When they said the ending would be bitter sweet, I would've had no problem with the Night king winning Westeros and forcing the rest of the leaving to sail to Essos

  • ArgieGrit01
    ArgieGrit01 2 ngày trước +1

    "It's not going to be your classic good-versus-evil conflict"


  • Eustache Lamort de Gail
    Eustache Lamort de Gail 2 ngày trước

    9:14 "except things probably wont be that simple..." if only you knew...

  • TheLazy0ne
    TheLazy0ne 3 ngày trước

    Nothing and they don't matter!

  • Ecstasility
    Ecstasility 3 ngày trước +2

    So that was a fucking lie then.

  • Tolunay Avci
    Tolunay Avci 3 ngày trước

    Sovietwomble wtf

  • kieran10202
    kieran10202 3 ngày trước

    Maybe they were just people once, and their method of surviving the changing climate was to become one with the ice, and somehow this made them unable to reproduce without the use of the original humans. Perhaps they originated in Yi Ti. The doom of valyria was only a few centuries ago, perhaps the valyrians awakened them when they caused the doom, tying together the two ploylines: the Iron Throne and the long night.

  • Tsumi Green
    Tsumi Green 4 ngày trước

    Im here...after...nvm i dont wanna talk about it..

  • Felipe Morales
    Felipe Morales 4 ngày trước +2

    Oh, how simple we’ve become in 4 years.

  • Andrew Yaxley
    Andrew Yaxley 4 ngày trước


  • Scarcat
    Scarcat 5 ngày trước

    how didn't crasters son die of the cold?

  • Ser Bronn of the Fookin Blackwater

    Greetings from season 8. Wow this is depressing.

  • Sargon of Akkad
    Sargon of Akkad 5 ngày trước

    Aaaand they're dead

  • Greg Alman
    Greg Alman 6 ngày trước

    Greetings from May, 2019. You know nothing, Alt Shift X.

  • MrSilverKatana
    MrSilverKatana 7 ngày trước

    Another point that wasn't really touched on in this is the fact that all those Wildlings, Giants, and Children of the Forest we trapped on the other side of the wall and were refused entry to the other side. Especially if we are to believe that they all built the wall together it seems kind of strange to leave them trapped there and then refuse to let them in. Though if the theory of there having been some kind of truce with the Others then that could be a could reason for leaving them in what might have been agreed to as being their territory. Maybe part of the agreement was to leave people there so that the Others could regain number that they'v lost. If that's the case it wouldn't be strange for there to be an agreement of sacrifices to increase there numbers from those on and south of the wall as well, and maybe since the main castle that was used to oversee these secret offerings has since been abandoned and thus no offerings/sacrifices have been made on the south's part the deal might be considered broken for them so they're no longer keeping their end either of probably staying north of the wall.

    Part of me doubt it'll be that much but there's definitely some fucky stuff going on with how they left people north of the wall, the theories on the making of the wall itself, and with the fact that, if i'm remembering correctly, we were told that they do have an actual motive for what they're doing.

  • Warren Blyth
    Warren Blyth 7 ngày trước

    would be cooler if Jon was resurrected in the same fashion as Coldhands.

  • Communist Bear
    Communist Bear 8 ngày trước +2

    8:39 Dude what the Heck, you jinxed it

  • Ian Irwin
    Ian Irwin 8 ngày trước

    I was waiting to find out the Night King was/wanted in the show, but no it turns out he's just some chilly boi

  • Ovidiu Simion
    Ovidiu Simion 9 ngày trước

    What if Simeon Star-Eyes is the first Azor Ahai and was the one who made the Pact with the White Walkers ?
    Maybe putting "star sapphires" in his "empty sockets" means losing his humanity and becoming a "Prince of the White Walkers" (the Prince Who Was Promised) who agreed to sending human babies through the Black Gate every now and then ?

    A hero who is as twisted and unhuman as the other avatars of the gods (Patchface, Beric Dondarrion... and perhaps Jon when he'll be resurrected by Melisandre in the Winds of Winter).

  • Johannes He
    Johannes He 9 ngày trước +1

    Well. It is becoming painfully clear that the series and the books are very very very different stories now.

  • Penguindrummer
    Penguindrummer 9 ngày trước

    They be dead.

  • Simran Sinha
    Simran Sinha 10 ngày trước +1

    Looking back at this video makes me smh so hard

  • Johannes Pensel
    Johannes Pensel 11 ngày trước +1

    Damn this did not age well

  • Wrangle McDangle
    Wrangle McDangle 11 ngày trước


  • Mister Ree
    Mister Ree 12 ngày trước +1

    Don't worry Winter is over now so it doesn't matter XD

  • S R
    S R 13 ngày trước +1

    Personally I like the Lich King theory. Jon Snow, like the old Azor Ahai, realizes that there must always be a Night King, and so replaces him. Every ten thousand years or so a great hero must sacrifice themselves for humanity and replace the Night King, whose humanity has by then completely eroded through the ages. Then he goes up North and remains inactive for millennia.

  • Devon Hart
    Devon Hart 13 ngày trước

    And just like that there dead. Season 8

  • The h
    The h 13 ngày trước

    didnt age well this :(

    JAKOB TOREL 13 ngày trước

    Is there a possibility that the man we saw turning into the Night King in the show by the Children of the forest wasn't really a captive ? but willingly sacrificed himself as part of the pact to keep the peace in westeros ?

  • UncleBadTouch
    UncleBadTouch 13 ngày trước

    16:40 On the topic of duality, since he'll most likely be resurrected by Melisandre and R'hllor, it makes sense that he'll eventually be resurrected by the Other.

  • Digital Blazar
    Digital Blazar 13 ngày trước +2

    "it's not going to be your classic good-versus-evil conflict"


  • 7MGTESupraTurboA
    7MGTESupraTurboA 13 ngày trước +1

    The "others, white walkers and night king" have been castrated by a teenage tomboy girl mary sue who magically showed up and sneaked past all of them to make the subverted kill by the writers... oh wait this fan speculation was made in 2015... LoL

  • dreamylicio
    dreamylicio 15 ngày trước +4

    *E X P E C T A T I O N S S U B V E R T E D*

  • BigFatMoose
    BigFatMoose 15 ngày trước +1

    What are the White Walkers?
    Not a threat...apparently

  • Yolo Swaggins
    Yolo Swaggins 15 ngày trước +1

    What could've been

  • thr3ddy
    thr3ddy 16 ngày trước

    So many people disappointed with how S8 is turning out, myself included. It's unlikely that GRRM will take a similar path in the books though, they're so much more complex and layered. I'm holding on to that last sliver of hope.

  • Francesco Possati
    Francesco Possati 17 ngày trước

    A war for the dawn would be too obvious 😭😭😭. I am crying right now at the wasted potential

  • Milkman69ner
    Milkman69ner 17 ngày trước

    Anyone else watching this during season 8 and realise they have done everything the video maker mocked? They totally fucked it up

  • Hi Jack
    Hi Jack 17 ngày trước

    After S8EP3: We are like Jon Snow. We know nothing

  • Max Mark
    Max Mark 17 ngày trước

    9:10 anyone else watching this now and realizing it's the end to the show?

  • Lightning Farron
    Lightning Farron 18 ngày trước

    The Others: So mysterious, interesting, complex and unstoppable all throughout the series. Yet they were killed by a little girl with just one easy stab.

    • Stor Bokki
      Stor Bokki 17 ngày trước

      nope, the night king lives.
      Like this video said, the White Walkers are not the same as "the other" or "the great other". "The great other" is the night king, "the others" are the male newborns he turns. White Walkers are just animated snow, ice and cold as Stannis said.
      We will see Azor Ahai probably at the last moment closing of E8S5. E8E6 we'll get a bran vision, and the show will close with Azor Ahai riding north. to be continued. I'm expecting another book and possibly movie in a few years to tell the account of Azor Ahai as he/she searches for "the Land of Always Winter". This video is from 2015 but it is still right on the money.

  • Dominik Stanko
    Dominik Stanko 18 ngày trước +5

    Watching this video in 2019 and seeing what they actually did with all this in the show is just sad

    • Doomer Bloomer
      Doomer Bloomer 16 ngày trước

      +Stor Bokki lol, in what? two episodes? Remember that Danny still has to defeat cersei. Don't forget that this is the last season, too.

    • Stor Bokki
      Stor Bokki 17 ngày trước

      except that the show is following this very well. expect to find out the Night King isn't dead.

  • Oscar Wind
    Oscar Wind 19 ngày trước

    I whant to see rickon rideing a unicorn also maeby that nights king is the night king who is now being punished by leading them.

  • Ben Heaton
    Ben Heaton 19 ngày trước +1

    It could’ve been done so much better:.. I want to go back

  • Mohamed Mohamed
    Mohamed Mohamed 19 ngày trước

    just let out one big sigh, so many things could’ve went right but season 8 has been a let down so far :/

  • Marcus Bøe
    Marcus Bøe 19 ngày trước

    Gone is what they are. Oneshotted by a teleport backstab

  • Sridhar Himane
    Sridhar Himane 19 ngày trước +10

    8:43 Watching this after S8 Ep3 was hard.

  • Voleur
    Voleur 19 ngày trước

    ironic that it ends exactly like that, best and most accurate theory..

  • Boringname
    Boringname 20 ngày trước

    But wights are killed with dragon glass and Valyrian steel.

  • yogev gershon
    yogev gershon 20 ngày trước +4

    8:43 - 9:09

    Yep, that's exactly what happened
    9:10 - 10:47 is so wrong at this point, and this is why the series became so bad

    • Rake
      Rake 20 ngày trước +1

      Paused the vid to check comments at 10:47 and see this comment lol

  • Yazz
    Yazz 20 ngày trước

    This is sad now 😢

  • Wagromph
    Wagromph 20 ngày trước

    A side plot

  • 999theeagle
    999theeagle 21 ngày trước

    Yet the show will now end with a large battle...

    LAMEZOR 21 ngày trước

    Wait, SovietWomble is pledged to your Patreon? That's awesome lol

  • Grimoire666
    Grimoire666 21 ngày trước +1

    According to the latest episode, either The Night King had a hidden stash of Others back at his place to continue the death post death or the latest book reveals more about their culture- if it ever comes around before Martin’s death. Because with the death of the entire army, it seems likely we’ll never get a true answer.

  • Commander Shepherd
    Commander Shepherd 22 ngày trước +16

    this video is funny in hindsight

  • Dina M
    Dina M 22 ngày trước +3

    well..the show definitely got the elegant and beautiful part wrong...as if it would kill the writers to honor the original story with all it's details

  • Fernando Coplin
    Fernando Coplin 22 ngày trước

    Everyone upset with how season 8 episode 3 is overlooking the possibility that "The Night King" was actually just another general. I feel like there's a lot of context we're missing that'll come from the prequel series. All I know is, it felt like there was much more going on than a battle of good and evil. Plus it was "The Night King" who invaded, Jon and everyone else were on defense the entire episode.

  • romefox
    romefox 22 ngày trước +11

    LOL, things were that simple, in fact, even simpler. They fucked us all out of something amazing.

  • Executioner Gaboo
    Executioner Gaboo 22 ngày trước +13

    "it's not going to be your classic good vs evil conflict"
    Benioff today: it wasn't me, it was my alter ego, here, take this Battle of Winterfell and go

  • Penny Name
    Penny Name 23 ngày trước +235

    “Except things probably won’t be that simple”
    Well, they will.

    • Penny Name
      Penny Name 8 ngày trước +2

      Queen Elizabeth II I’m obviously taking about the show, you dumb fuck

    • Queen Elizabeth II
      Queen Elizabeth II 8 ngày trước

      *Have you read this book? I doubt it.* You're going by HBO as if George wrote all of it. Ignorance at it's finest

    • Quetzalcoatl
      Quetzalcoatl 9 ngày trước +2

      In the show.

  • Skynyrd Jesus
    Skynyrd Jesus 23 ngày trước

    Why does the tunnel at the Night Fort have to be intrinsically nefarious? It honestly seems far more likely that it's just what Sam says it is, a secret sally port to emerge behind an attacking host and trap them in an envelopement.

  • plewelly
    plewelly 23 ngày trước +3

    Watching this today is interesting

  • Dustin
    Dustin 23 ngày trước +2

    So 19 years and counting since the first book?! Yeah the show ruined GRRM. He will never finish this series. Especially considering there's supposed to be ANOTHER book after TWOW. Such a damn shame.

  • Blake W.
    Blake W. 23 ngày trước +5

    10:30 “It’s not going to be your classic good versus evil conflict.” This video has aged very poorly.

    • XH B
      XH B 23 ngày trước

      Blake W. Their origin isn’t though. They were forced to become evil against their will. They’re men. That’s the complexity.

  • Jacob Collins
    Jacob Collins 23 ngày trước +88

    Oof this didn’t age well. Your videos are amazing so no criticism towards you. Rather the show runners

    • Matheus mnz
      Matheus mnz 4 ngày trước

      It will once Martin eventually releases TWOW, I'm guessing.

  • Saher Imran
    Saher Imran 23 ngày trước +4

    Your video is comprehensive and included with good references. Your style of talking is not rushed or extra hyped. Your study and analysis make a lot of sense. I just saw the 3rd episode of season 8 and man was it a disappointment. What you dismissed off saying they cant be that cheesy is what they ACTUALLY did. Came here to renew my knowledge on the The Others and the black gate. Thanks for the in depth origin story!

  • Slater B.
    Slater B. 23 ngày trước


  • Perpetual Peter
    Perpetual Peter 24 ngày trước +22

    10:37 , this episode has aged well lol

  • KIng James
    KIng James 24 ngày trước

    Since nobody knows how Valyrian steel is made, I bet Valyrian steel is steel mixed with obsidian.

  • Munashiimaru
    Munashiimaru 24 ngày trước +3

    Apparently all you needed to know was a good old prison shanking would solve it all.

  • I love History!
    I love History! 24 ngày trước


  • iria bee
    iria bee 24 ngày trước +128

    Yeah so much for that big threat they been beating us over the head with for 8 seasons. Turns out the white walkers suck and get beat overnight in their very first big battle. What a complete waste of time this whole storyline has been.

  • Dogemacht42
    Dogemacht42 24 ngày trước +8

    Looks like the Night King was just a joke, oof. Not downplaying Arya, but still.

  • TheBigGSN5
    TheBigGSN5 24 ngày trước +1

    Apparently they could have just cut them from the show and just had more Wildling, Bolton, Greyjoy conflict instead.

  • TheHarimgrebduhl
    TheHarimgrebduhl 24 ngày trước +3

    Ha ha ha.... Your jokey prophecy of everything ending nicely is just what the show is about to do. Can't wait for the books to be finished.

  • Dank Scrote
    Dank Scrote 24 ngày trước +2

    God David and Dan fucked up big time

  • Roronoa Willy
    Roronoa Willy 24 ngày trước +1

    You’re actually a genius dude, season 8 episode 3, everything there you predicted it

  • Jonathan Reisman
    Jonathan Reisman 25 ngày trước +2

    8:58 was basically the battle of winterfell

    THRILLHO 25 ngày trước

    9:01 This ridiculous ending actually basically happened

  • Mario Ciao Baratti
    Mario Ciao Baratti 25 ngày trước +11

    08:42 LMAO that's exactly how it went. "Things could be that simple?" --> YES

  • Danangoo
    Danangoo 25 ngày trước +8

    W R O N G

  • TwoHeavens
    TwoHeavens 25 ngày trước +785

    "Things really won't be that simple..."
    Greetings from season 8.

  • SquidsMagee
    SquidsMagee 25 ngày trước +19

    Things were that simple

  • HitmanTR
    HitmanTR 25 ngày trước +10

    this video is so old, but you making fun of how things are going to go, its pretty much what happened... good call.