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  • Does Robb Stark die twice at the Red Wedding? How are the Stark children connected to their direwolves? How do wargs live second lives in their wolves?
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  • Alt Shift X
    Alt Shift X  5 tháng trước +211

    From GRRM's script for GOT S4E02: "Robb sits drenched in blood amidst the carnage of the Red Wedding, surrounded by the dead. His dead face slowly transforms into Grey Wind’s wolfish features."
    Source: www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/12/game-of-thrones-george-rr-martin-last-script-the-lion-and-the-rose

    • Hollow Shell
      Hollow Shell 4 tháng trước +5

      Hydro Moe because the show has to simplify everything. In the books, it’s clearly explained that a warg is a specific type of skin changer that has a relationship with a wolf. The show of course thinks very little of the intelligence of its fan base so they simplify everything so people don’t get confused

    • Hydro Moe
      Hydro Moe 4 tháng trước +6

      +Brynden Rivers no Warg is the general term for any skin walker. The Wildling with the Eagle was called a Warg repeatedly.

    • Geno Porreca
      Geno Porreca 4 tháng trước +2

      Great video. Could listen to you talk all day

    • Brynden Rivers
      Brynden Rivers 4 tháng trước +5

      It's specifically stated in the world of Ice and Fire that Warg specifically and only refers to a skin changer that has a relationship with a wolf and is not just another generic term for any skin changer

    • Veganazi Animista
      Veganazi Animista 4 tháng trước +1

      Hey, do you have a video about the theory that Jaine Westerling is carrying Robb's baby?

  • TalhaTheOptimist
    TalhaTheOptimist 23 giờ trước

    *NO*

  • Pronte
    Pronte 2 ngày trước

    Robb Sekiro, I guess that's the rumored GRRM - FromSoftware project

  • Asian xQc
    Asian xQc 2 ngày trước +1

    Sekiro Rob Stark dies twice

  • Matt Darat
    Matt Darat 3 ngày trước

    Dude could you have a more monotone and boring voice?? Hahah wow

  • Colin Clayton
    Colin Clayton 4 ngày trước

    Complete bullshit that Robb didn't get any POV chapters.

  • Sam Whalen
    Sam Whalen 6 ngày trước +1

    The OG Sekiro

  • Zeemanhuismerk
    Zeemanhuismerk 7 ngày trước +2

    Yes cuz the actor played Sekiro

  • Rob G
    Rob G 7 ngày trước

    Morrron bookjonnnns rezzarection

  • Julien Alonso
    Julien Alonso 7 ngày trước

    VARAMYR LIVED IN HIS RAVEN NOT A WOLF

  • Blue/Two Paint/Hands
    Blue/Two Paint/Hands 8 ngày trước

    3:10 Jesus and Judas in the bottom right for some reason...

  • Zaid Ali
    Zaid Ali 9 ngày trước +1

    GoT: Robb dies twice

  • Berra Saral
    Berra Saral 11 ngày trước

    Sigh* if only

  • OVAH Lord
    OVAH Lord 14 ngày trước +1

    Sekiro : Robert Dies Twice

  • Arrender
    Arrender 18 ngày trước

    Robb was an idiot

  • Attrazzione
    Attrazzione 18 ngày trước

    Who the heck is rickon Stark

  • Waterscape
    Waterscape 18 ngày trước

    i don't like your voice

  • Gaunter O'Dimm
    Gaunter O'Dimm 19 ngày trước

    Walder Fray vs Night King
    After the "long night" it's fucking obvious that Walder is more lethal and scary than NK, who waisted 8000 years and couple of minutes just to get destroyed by Aya!

  • Kristina Anderson
    Kristina Anderson 20 ngày trước

    but like, yOU DIDN'T HAVE TO SAY THAT----

  • Oscar Wind
    Oscar Wind 21 ngày trước

    I always bring a man eating wolf to meetings. When someone says something i don't like they get man eated to death. Super convenient Robb

  • Enma 93
    Enma 93 24 ngày trước +1

    no he is not.. he isn't sekiro you know

  • Mr. NoRide
    Mr. NoRide 24 ngày trước

    Here is the thing, Grey Wind dies before Robb.

  • Xénesis
    Xénesis 25 ngày trước

    no sekiro jokes?

  • simply2ghetto
    simply2ghetto 27 ngày trước

    "If you wanna get tin foiled with this"

    I definitely want to get tin foiled! That's why I watch your Vids Mr Alt Shift X

  • AirHornet
    AirHornet 28 ngày trước

    Sekiro

  • Kai Johnson
    Kai Johnson 28 ngày trước

    Grey wind is not dead!

  • Sexual Chocolate Robbie
    Sexual Chocolate Robbie 29 ngày trước

    Red wedding sucks.

  • Submersed24
    Submersed24 Tháng trước

    It would have been really cool if they kept the wolf alive

  • Nosevelt McGoldstein
    Nosevelt McGoldstein Tháng trước +1

    Filch let himself go after his cat was petrified

  • cubeincubes
    cubeincubes Tháng trước

    People are gunna be SO ANGRY when this is over

  • ASMR MRSA
    ASMR MRSA Tháng trước

    Wow they really messed up jons death in the show then, in that he didnt live as ghost. they could have easily had him say when he came back that he was in ghost, i wonder why they chose not to do that and nstead push the same thing dondarian said, there was nothing. I will say though on too many starks resurrecting, technically catelyn and jon are not starks, so really there havent been any, but based on the books warging into a human is likely not going to go well

  • Renee
    Renee Tháng trước

    Mellisandra's vision he was a man, now a wolf, now a man again. How much of a mindfuck would it be if the tin foil hat theory with Robb was true and he becomes the king on the throne. Literally no one would see that coming

    obviously that's not going to happen but it would be funny as hell

  • Bob Isalpha
    Bob Isalpha Tháng trước +6

    Robb didn't die, they actually used some random Stark man for the Direwolf head, he escapes and is gonna come back and kill a load of WWs in Season 8 ep 3

    • MooseNut76
      MooseNut76 26 ngày trước +1

      Yeeeaah about that...

  • Simon Matthews
    Simon Matthews Tháng trước

    Don’t waste your time with this video the guy hasn’t got a clue what’s he is talking about

  • STORMBREAKER
    STORMBREAKER Tháng trước

    Jon never wargs into Ghost as when the red women asks him what did he see when he died and he said nothing
    that contradicts your theory and Robb Stark died once and for all

  • Triplerush
    Triplerush Tháng trước

    What the fuck is all this hate for Robb?

  • ImJasonD
    ImJasonD Tháng trước

    He just made The Red Wedding sadder....

  • Samson Strong
    Samson Strong Tháng trước

    Ain't no way Robb is coming back just to die again LOL

  • MNM mcg
    MNM mcg Tháng trước +1

    That wedding went south really fast.

  • Leonardo Martinez
    Leonardo Martinez Tháng trước +1

    Sekiro

  • Jeffrey Carter
    Jeffrey Carter Tháng trước

    Perhaps in the books, but if I remember correctly concerning the show, Robb is still alive when Greywind is murdered. He has a few arrows in him, but I think he's still alive at that point.

  • Endriago
    Endriago Tháng trước

    Is Robb Stark the one-armed wolf? (damn, it fits pretty well)

  • Mirrored Jeremy
    Mirrored Jeremy Tháng trước

    Grey wind dies first in the show then shortly after Robb does

  • Tyler Belisle
    Tyler Belisle Tháng trước

    Thanks for spoiling the show with your title btw

  • Draoswaarg Baal
    Draoswaarg Baal Tháng trước

    I would say it wouldhave been cooler if robb lived on in grey wind

  • Datruthshines
    Datruthshines Tháng trước

    The Starks are the most gullible vulnerable families in all of Westeros! Stubborn as hell too.

  • MrPing
    MrPing Tháng trước

    Did you remember that Ned stark was say Something when he was killed? He moved his lipes (sorry Englisch is not so good xD)
    Maybe he go in a Wolf or maybe in the Crowstorm you can saw in next Scene

  • MlBB HUB
    MlBB HUB Tháng trước

    no.. NO.. NO!!... they don't warg.. Only BRAN!!

    • Sharpy
      Sharpy Tháng trước

      +Alt Shift X you literally just proved yourself wrong then. You said "the tv show is different" so then why make the video?

    • Alt Shift X
      Alt Shift X  Tháng trước +1

      In the books, Arya and Jon warg - and GRRM said all the Stark kids have warging powers to some degree
      The tv show is different

  • Kitty Kat
    Kitty Kat Tháng trước

    random fun fact: direwolves actually did exist, and archaeologists actually know a shit ton about them because of the sheer number of them found at the la brea tar pits...about 4,000 individuals

  • Lasse Jürgensen
    Lasse Jürgensen Tháng trước

    There's no proof, it doesn't change anything... What's the point then?

  • Abdega
    Abdega Tháng trước

    Can Shaggy warg into Scooby-Doo?

  • wheelmanstan
    wheelmanstan Tháng trước

    that wolf's situation was so....dire

  • flyingpianos123
    flyingpianos123 Tháng trước

    This just made me so fucking sad :/

  • Senju Pain
    Senju Pain Tháng trước

    Robb Stark died because he stop believe in the old god he put his direwolves in chain like a southern king would do also he married in the presence of the 7..he was my favorit character but after what i read at 3:54.. iam dissapointed

  • Drew Carras
    Drew Carras Tháng trước

    Yes

  • Mikkel Sharwar
    Mikkel Sharwar Tháng trước

    *no spoiler warning u dumb fuck?*

  • Mexicanman115 _
    Mexicanman115 _ 2 tháng trước

    Robb comes back as a fucking big dog
    Freys with crossbows
    Robb: You gotta be fucking kidding me

  • Hernandez Mccuminner
    Hernandez Mccuminner 2 tháng trước

    Fuck, spoilers.....im at s05e06

  • Tendō Pain
    Tendō Pain 2 tháng trước

    At the VERY LEAST, you could say Robb got to see that Arya was still alive before he died again. He thought she was dead right? I’m sure he would’ve thought she was gonna die in that situation but at least he has a glimmer of hope yanno

  • Luna -
    Luna - 2 tháng trước

    Omg this makes sense, especially when you mention the wolf looking at Arya, that part almost made me cry.

  • Rakesh Kashyap
    Rakesh Kashyap 2 tháng trước

    I am Indian but still understand your every word with good pronunciation

  • Rakesh Kashyap
    Rakesh Kashyap 2 tháng trước

    Nice narrations

  • Carlos Marcus
    Carlos Marcus 2 tháng trước +4

    GoT is Sekiro? Alt Shift is Vaati confirmed!

  • Kingsley Robinson
    Kingsley Robinson 2 tháng trước

    Shaggydog? Damn it Rickon🤦🏻‍♂️

  • Lord Affwind
    Lord Affwind 2 tháng trước +1

    It is a good theory but there are 2 mistake there. First of all, when a warg dies, warg passes to his animals body. But wargs can not warg when he passed his second life. So that Robb can not warg to Westerling. Second, Even Varamyr could not warged a human. And we know Varamyr is a SUPERPOWERED warg. But he could not. I suppose Robb can not warg to Westerling

  • Mia P
    Mia P 2 tháng trước

    :(

  • Vanessa Gordon
    Vanessa Gordon 2 tháng trước

    Poor Grey Wind! Robb should have listened to him.

  • Moe Szyslak
    Moe Szyslak 2 tháng trước

    monotone ape

  • Omiku -chan
    Omiku -chan 2 tháng trước

    OMG... this also makes a parallel between Robb's death and his father's, both seeing Arya at the end... that could mean so many things... it makes me think of so many theories!

  • Robyn Montgomery
    Robyn Montgomery 2 tháng trước

    I always wanted to see wight wolf's-head Robb Stark running amok, snapping and biting and pissing.

  • FamilyPhantom
    FamilyPhantom 2 tháng trước

    I'm down for the tragedy of this theory, unfortunately, grey wind dies BEFORE Robb in the show, although I would have to check the books cause it's been ages since I've read them. If Robb dies first in the books, then I wouldn't just say it's plausible, I'd say it's likely that he does warg into Grey Wind. In the show though, he doesn't, as grey wind is already dead by the time he dies, and that can just be attributed to the showrunners not having the GRRM's notes on the more minute details of the books like this one.

  • Tube Kelea
    Tube Kelea 3 tháng trước

    What if the lord of light can revive dead wargs...all we need to find out is beric being a warg

  • sebastjan krek
    sebastjan krek 3 tháng trước

    Robb is dead, as would be anyone who thinks they could do whatever they wanted as a ruler. The truth is, it's just the opposite. Politics always come first. Wanting to marry that girl was arguably the dumbest move I've seen in this show.

  • Joint Lucas
    Joint Lucas 3 tháng trước

    You referred to the books to many times the show is what everyone is interested in not some nerdy books

  • Emily Daenzer
    Emily Daenzer 3 tháng trước

    this video should be titled "In case you thought the Red Wedding couldn't get any sadder!"

  • Pa!n737
    Pa!n737 3 tháng trước

    Jon wouldn’t be able to become ghost though right? Because he’s a Targaryen?

  • Gurjeet Singh
    Gurjeet Singh 3 tháng trước

    It was good thing that Cat died, she was a bitch anyways.

  • ironmaidenfan420
    ironmaidenfan420 3 tháng trước

    I would love a sub chapter from grrm a greywind, Robb chapter maybe the whispering woods. The Jon/ghost, bran/summer etc.. chapters are my favorites

  • MattV2099: Guns & Food
    MattV2099: Guns & Food 3 tháng trước

    i hope GRRM finishes this damn series. then sits down for a Q&A. that's about all he has time for.

  • Christian Johansen
    Christian Johansen 3 tháng trước

    I can say with 95% certainty that Robb stark did not warg into Raynald Westerling. In the 3rd book when Bran wargs into Hodor for the first time, he explains how it didn't feel natural, like taking a boot on the wrong foot, and Robb didn't recieve any kind of training at all like Brandon did. So i find it extremely unlikely that that could be the case.

  • MeshMeshBro
    MeshMeshBro 4 tháng trước

    People will go to any lengths to trick themselves into their favorite characters aren’t dead

  • Christopher
    Christopher 4 tháng trước +1

    Ghost the goat

  • Jaqen H'ghar
    Jaqen H'ghar 4 tháng trước

    Shaggy dog? Come on Rickon.

  • Parker Ferguson
    Parker Ferguson 4 tháng trước +2

    The idea of Rob looking at Arya through Grey Wind before he dies is fucking heart breaking, holy shit.

  • Gino
    Gino 4 tháng trước

    The red wedding remains as one the most abominable things that happened in tv.

  • MR. Nobody
    MR. Nobody 4 tháng trước

    do you mean their last words in the books. Because in the show, Jons last word is "Olly" and Robbs is "Mother"

  • MR. Nobody
    MR. Nobody 4 tháng trước

    He married Talisa, and he killed Karstark. That was his mistakes.

  • Ultimate Space Dad
    Ultimate Space Dad 4 tháng trước

    5:38 is when s*** gets real

  • Lord Pepe
    Lord Pepe 4 tháng trước

    Robb Stark's situation is like in a game match where you die, and respawn at a convenient place that gives you a good chance to get back at your opponents because of its strategic location, but it turns out there's already enemies there and they shoot you down right as you respawn.

  • Fella Titsgerald
    Fella Titsgerald 4 tháng trước

    I am sure I am not the first person to bring this up but it seems worg's abilities may be in the body, not the spirit/soul/mind. Once switching skins with his direwolf, Rob would be trapped. Not even the Sixskins could get around that messy rule, and he spent (most of) his whole life training. I doubt that just being a Stark is reason enough to be an exception.

  • Alice Townsend
    Alice Townsend 4 tháng trước

    The idea of Jon snows ressurection being through ghost, the man to wolf to man thing is played out in robin hobb's farseer trilogy. Obviously not how it happened on GoT, just an interesting reminder of a series I used to love.

  • Pinklatex
    Pinklatex 4 tháng trước

    TINFOIL PLEASE!

  • Chris Baskin
    Chris Baskin 4 tháng trước

    The Rains of Castamere is still the greatest episode of Game of Thrones and maybe the greatest episode of any series with the exception of maybe The Sopranos finale

  • Safween
    Safween 5 tháng trước

    But grey wind was killed before Robb was killed. Robb was shot with arrows but he didn’t die yet, then the frey men killed grey wind, and in the NEXT scene Robb gets killed by roose Bolton.

    • Alt Shift X
      Alt Shift X  5 tháng trước

      The books are different 😉

  • LIN
    LIN 5 tháng trước

    This is sad to watch

  • Adewale Umbeteweawea
    Adewale Umbeteweawea 5 tháng trước

    YO
    WHAT IF WHEN NED DIED HE WARGED INTO A DIREWOLF
    HE MUTTERS SOME SHIT BEFORE HE GETS BEHEADED

  • Robby Jeffries
    Robby Jeffries 5 tháng trước

    Wasn’t Robb’s last words “Mother” not Greywind?

  • B1 Merry
    B1 Merry 5 tháng trước

    🦄🐐🦄🐐🦄🐐for Rickon

  • sweetgotsweeter
    sweetgotsweeter 5 tháng trước

    This is literally the cruelest video I ever watched. How could you make the Red Wedding MORE tragic 😭😭

  • poison rose
    poison rose 5 tháng trước

    Well now I'm depressed again.