The real reason Boeing's new plane crashed twice

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    Vox  5 ngày trước +805

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    • Buckoux
      Buckoux 3 giờ trước

      Your "obscure fact" is highly preconceived. The 737 Max-8's engine size/weight, placement and power had nothing to do with the two crashes. Neither were the AoA sensors faulty or at fault. The beginning of the crashes began when the MCAS programming assumed the aircraft was at an undesirable AoA in normal takeoff climb and took the airplane from pilots control. The pilots who turned OFF the MCAS, and left it OFF, had no problems completing their flight to destinations. The two pilots who turned the MCAS back ON, after OFF, had fatal outcomes. The MCAS did not "like" the new altitude when turned back ON, and "wanted" the old altitude where it was turned OFF. The MCAS took control of both aircraft when it was turned back ON, opened the throttles to full, and flew the airplanes, nose down, into eternity. It was bad code, not Boeing's "greed".

    • Rob Y
      Rob Y 9 giờ trước

      +Brian Dell Bottom line is that Boeing put a system in a plane to address an inherent misbalance in the flight characteristics of the plane in order to sell the plane as just another 737. In order sell this idea this they completely omitted mention of the MCAS system in the flight manuals. This would have been fine if the system didn't have absolute authority over the stab trim and pitch of the aircraft but it did! It would have also been fine if the system had any degree of redundancy... Which it didn't. It may have also been fine if the pilot input had control authority over MCAS... But it didn't! This is pure speculation but imagine you are a pilot and you lost complete pitch control of the aircraft and it is nosing down. You have seconds to figure out a problem that is not even mentioned in the flight manual and you are at a low altitude trying to make it back o the airport for an emergency landing. That's like telling a trained UFC fighter that he should have used his Jiu-Jitsu skills when someone came up behind him at a bar and sucker punched him in the back of the head. Never saw it coming.
      Another thing to mention is that because of the jack screw design of the 737 turning off MCAS by activating the cutout switches does not automatically fix the issue... The Stab trim is now STLL in FULL nose down position because it cuts power in the last known position of the stabilizer which in this case was full nose down! Now by following Boeings instructions you have created a stabilizer that is STUCK in full NOSE Down.
      This stabilizer now needs to be manually BY HAND trimmed with zero assistance from the electric motors which could be impossible in the current situation.

    • Brian Dell
      Brian Dell 10 giờ trước

      +Rob Y The system was off before that happened. So, no, the system did not do that. They turned it back on despite instructions not to. And then bad things happened because they were exceeding the aircraft's speed capacity. Never once did they try to slow down. Boeing cannot design a plane that is controllable at 500 knots because of this thing called physics.

    • Rob Y
      Rob Y 11 giờ trước

      +Brian Dell Boeing created a system that had NO redundancy for sensor failure that had absolute trim and pitch control over the airplane. Then didn't tell the pilots about it because they wanted to sell the fallacy that the Max 8 was just another 737. I guess the pilots could have slowed down but they forgot to turn on the antigravity switch as they were struggling with a 40 degree nosedive that the non redundant, ghost system put them in.

    • The Blue Revolution
      The Blue Revolution 20 giờ trước

      One day Corporate and Capitalism will destroy the Human Civilization in its greed and competition

  • A B
    A B 8 phút trước

    And all the CEOs that get fired will have golden parachutes and glide to safety with millions in severance pay. Death to lives all for a quick buck, corporate greed and scum is at an all time high. The world needs to rid itself of these capitalist corporations because they only care about one thing, the dollar at any and all cost! This is costing lives and the health of our planet with extraordinary pollution as well.

  • A B
    A B 17 phút trước

    The real reason: what goes up, must come down

  • JurassicHog
    JurassicHog 34 phút trước

    it will take many year to gain confidence in airline industry.

  • bob avon
    bob avon 46 phút trước

    Boeing's moto is money before lives. That's how they will compete with Airdeath. The FAA needs blood in the U.S. before it reacts.

  • KIM Lyong
    KIM Lyong 57 phút trước

    How about f you boeing company...

  • Ninja Man
    Ninja Man Giờ trước

    all in the name of profits

  • William Wood
    William Wood Giờ trước

    Very informative video very sad ....Boeing needs to be punished

  • 1000 IQ
    1000 IQ Giờ trước

    No more boeing for me

  • solohoh
    solohoh Giờ trước

    Thank you for a very clear explanation of the problem, now we need to know more about the Boeing insiders who are responsible for this blunder.

  • Aaron Zhao
    Aaron Zhao Giờ trước

    Can someone explain why it is too late to turn off MCAS in the second incident?

  • Wahb Mabkhout
    Wahb Mabkhout Giờ trước

    This is OUTRAGEOUS!! Boing should face criminal charges, the people responsible should go to jail and Boing should pay enormous fines!

  • not sure
    not sure Giờ trước


  • Vish Ay
    Vish Ay Giờ trước

    The sad reality is in the real world business is business profits is the top goal even if that means cutting corners and taking risks

  • not sure
    not sure Giờ trước +1


  • Ha El
    Ha El 2 giờ trước

    Profit first... but dont worry they will get away with it....maybe with a light slap on the wrists

  • Radio Sky
    Radio Sky 2 giờ trước

    Aeronautical engineers that don't understand physics. And no, affirmative action is Not the reason why e-v-e-r-y-o-n-e in America SUCKS at their job, so don't say that.

  • Pat C
    Pat C 2 giờ trước

    Thanks Vox, I’m only watching this on a Boeing 737

  • Andy
    Andy 2 giờ trước

    This is misleading. The pilots followed the recommended 'runaway stabiliser' checklist, however they contravened it when they re-engaged the stab trim cutout switches, and control was lost shortly after. Also the thrust was never reduced from takeoff power, resulting in an extremely high speed which exacerbated the control issues. To say the crash was completely the fault of the aircraft manufacturer is misleading.

  • Derek C
    Derek C 2 giờ trước

    Why is it we as humans always have to exaggerate and blow things out of proportions. Millions of people die everyday for bs reasons and no one bats an eye. a plane goes down as horrible as it is and we find out that it’s a design issue that’s now being fixed and everyone loses there minds. Flying is still the safest form of travel and that is in part because of the hard work that Boeing employees do to build a great plane. So to say it’s negligence is ridiculous. The media doesn’t have a clue they’re not aerospace engineers and the whistleblowers they talk to most of those people are just pissed off becuase they got fired for some unrelated reason so they try and make the company look bad to better themselves.sory but It was a mistake that happens it’s rare but it does happen. It’s being fixed and the plane will be a safe plane soon enough

  • coolvids95
    coolvids95 2 giờ trước

    Sure let Vox tell us what is wrong with things they no nothing about.

  • Iman Amatullah
    Iman Amatullah 2 giờ trước +1

    Boeing owns the FAA! This equals corruption and death! 💲🛬⚰️

  • Marivic Gatab
    Marivic Gatab 2 giờ trước

    Is made in China!

  • Tyhrone
    Tyhrone 3 giờ trước

    Money kills

  • Meh Taylor
    Meh Taylor 3 giờ trước

    Boing murders!

  • halilbulle
    halilbulle 3 giờ trước

    They should be banned and some people should go to prison. This is so ridiculous I hope the ones who signed the dotted lines with their cheeks red hot turned to the side; burn.

  • Bucky Rodgerdodger
    Bucky Rodgerdodger 3 giờ trước

    I think it was a far larger issue than engine placement. Most older prop jets and piston prop aircraft have engines mounted within the wings and some older jets have rear mounted engines far above the wings. Nice theory though but doesn't sound reasonable or well researched.

  • Hotmom C
    Hotmom C 3 giờ trước

    This is why airbus is better

  • Mr. Freen
    Mr. Freen 3 giờ trước

    None of the fatcats at Boing or the FFA will pay the piper. This is result of a far too cozy relationship between regulators and private enterprise. It has to stop!

  • jeonlyxoxo
    jeonlyxoxo 3 giờ trước


  • Lil Kosta
    Lil Kosta 3 giờ trước

    Huge W for Airbus

  • Karma Nv
    Karma Nv 4 giờ trước

    So boeing chose quantity over quality.

  • Eduard Brichuk
    Eduard Brichuk 4 giờ trước

    Too sad :(

  • Mattia Mennonna
    Mattia Mennonna 4 giờ trước

    So money is the real reason

  • Hitoshi Takumi
    Hitoshi Takumi 4 giờ trước

    When your car stop working, so you update to the newest version.

  • Hitoshi Takumi
    Hitoshi Takumi 4 giờ trước

    A hardware problem shouldn't be fixed with software.

  • Paul
    Paul 5 giờ trước

    So why were the only crashes in foreign countries? Non English speaking countries? Do you know how many flights were made in one day in the US by Max 8 jets before the grounding? 4 thousand per day just by one carrier. And that wasn't the largest one. This is bullshit. I say there is a translation problem. Oh and the Ethiopians turned back on the automated system before the crash. Fake news!!!

  • Clinton Coker
    Clinton Coker 5 giờ trước

    Well that doesn't make any sense. If you raise the centreline of the engines, the nose will tend to be pushed down, not up...

  • Chris Norman
    Chris Norman 5 giờ trước

    Only ever fly on quality airlines.

  • Kenneth Howell
    Kenneth Howell 5 giờ trước

    Great explanation. You really did your homework. Thank you very much.

  • EcoDimension
    EcoDimension 5 giờ trước

    heart wrenching.... :(

  • shar 2know
    shar 2know 5 giờ trước

    Good luck to anyone who is stupid enough to get into 737 knowing this issue. Say hi to jesus for me.

  • Anmar H
    Anmar H 5 giờ trước

    I have always liked Airbus more then Boeing, but now I have a reason why do hate Boeing, like if you agree with me

  • Daniel Morse
    Daniel Morse 5 giờ trước

    Nice job guys.

  • cnccarving
    cnccarving 6 giờ trước

    it was clear from the first second, that pilots were unawared why the computer pushind down the plane...
    plane basically worked as it was designed..
    pilots werent trained for the situation..
    very possible the plane match with all safety rules otherwise, but need trained pilots for

  • olivia-J Trans
    olivia-J Trans 6 giờ trước

    American NOT knowhow.. it seems lives don't matter. for THEM

  • peter zencuch
    peter zencuch 6 giờ trước

    software shouldnt have more power than pilots, this software however updated will have suicidal inclination only probability of occurrence will be lower..

  • Sal Musa
    Sal Musa 6 giờ trước

    The families of the deceased should sue Boeing. So many lives lost because of their greed to make a quick buck.

  • mehrdadjoker
    mehrdadjoker 6 giờ trước


  • Buto Ijo
    Buto Ijo 6 giờ trước

    MCAS = More Crash As you See

  • Vasilis T
    Vasilis T 6 giờ trước

    Boeing shouldn't buy cheap, chinese software.

  • Nihat Savmaz
    Nihat Savmaz 6 giờ trước

    Americans can not be trusted. Thats it.

  • Aron
    Aron 6 giờ trước

    When making money is more important then saving lives ...

  • Oladipo Ajayi
    Oladipo Ajayi 6 giờ trước

    why is rhe plane only having this problem in particular countries, other advanced countries had the same problem but the pilot deals with it by turning the software of if you think automatic car parking software will ever work perfect, you deceive yourself this is were training comes in if is not working turn it off. advance countries spend much more time on training.

  • AzeriHound
    AzeriHound 7 giờ trước

    If I'm understanding this correctly, several hundred people died, simply because Boeing wanted to outcompete Airbus?
    So....why isn't Boeing's CEO behind bars? Last time I checked, murder was a crime.

    • Snetmot Nosrorb
      Snetmot Nosrorb 21 phút trước

      Because USA is a corporatocracy and the crashes occurred in shithole countries.

  • j22man
    j22man 7 giờ trước

    Competition really be killing people out here 😳😔

  • Mabooze
    Mabooze 7 giờ trước

    The background music in this video should be by Pet Shop Boys "Opportunity-lets make lots of money"......Where the some of the lyrics says it all...." I can "programme" a computer choose the perfect time
    If you've got the inclination I have the CRIME.
    I've got the brains you've got the looks
    Let's make lots of money"

  • spinerocker
    spinerocker 7 giờ trước +1

    Greed kills

  • Ray K
    Ray K 7 giờ trước

    737 is an old design, so management extend its life with more efficient engines.The new bigger engines alter the center of gravity, so engineers add software.Pilots are not consulted, so computer input training is inadequate.

  • Mauro Milia
    Mauro Milia 7 giờ trước

    Coanda effect..

  • Pixel
    Pixel 7 giờ trước

    Boeing is stupid as hell. They could’ve just made the gear higher, and fit the engine below the wing.

  • Ferrari Scuderia
    Ferrari Scuderia 7 giờ trước

    Lovely anti-American sentiment again in this biased piece of, well for brevity's sake lets call it reporting. Lets not forget that Airbus had major issues with their A320 Neo aircraft - the culprit? You guessed it, its engines. Though the reasons differed, production was still halted and aircraft deliveries were postponed costing airliners a lot of money, but that's aviation, however, isn't it funny how Europe or Airbus gets no bad press?
    And if anyone thinks that Airbus didn't skip and cut a few corners to save lives, well wrong. Air France flight 447 could actually have been averted if Airbus would have taken the warnings seriously after other Airbus A330 aircraft suffered similar icing conditions which resulted in the pitot tubes getting clogged resulting in the autopilot disengaging involuntarily. Then Germanwings flight 9525 - official story suicide by co-pilot - though other likely theories such as pilots having flown the same route with the same type of aircraft - an A320 - reported sudden autopilot override where the pilots had no control over the aircraft neither via autopilot input or manual flight, the only reason why nothing happened is because the captain pulled the circuit breaker of the anti-stall system and thus regained control.
    In short, both aircraft manufacturers are under immense pressure to deliver equipment that is never allowed to fail and are subjected to immense stress on the airframe which few understand, and considering how few fatal airplane crashes occur with an estimated 102'000 flights per day is truly an accomplishment and deserves nothing but the highest praise for the engineers, pilots, cabin crew, mechanics and the entire industry that keeps all these flights as well as entire economies afloat. And honoustly, does anyone really think that Boeing and Airbus are there to make a quick buck and jeopardize potentially their entire workforce? Why bother engineering and improving at all when your goal would be to crash it anyway?
    This type of liberal saloon communist propaganda only appeals to the feeble minded. Those who have lived - myself included - in socialist/ communist hell know to appreciate everything that comes standard in the greatest country in the world - don't like it, go live in Venezuela or N. Korea.

  • Andreas Stadel
    Andreas Stadel 7 giờ trước

    They have to face Boeing management for legal consequences and imprison them at the end. And they have to scrap this faulty design. And maybe they have to pay fine more than the VW company for their exhaust fraud, because of the proven dead of more than 300 passengers.

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  • .:wind.fall:.
    .:wind.fall:. 8 giờ trước +1

    2:14 Wow! "Such an advanced way to fix this! This solution is so advanced."
    I wonder what other solutions were there? Or if they could've come up with a new plane design alltogether.

  • LulzRoyce
    LulzRoyce 8 giờ trước +1

    Guess commercial competition doesn't always end in a win for the customer..

  • Jennifer White
    Jennifer White 8 giờ trước

    does not matter what happens American should be responsible for all the deaths of both planes they never grounded the planes down when the first plane went down Donald Trump should have done is job did he no all that that fake persistent is worried to build a wall now they have 2 planes went down and Americans hands have the blood on their hand did Trump say he is going to make American great again that hands of blood of other people deaths
    American should pay for all the lives lost in both planes American hands build the death trap and trump is their clown leader that has lifted all the safety rules in manufacturing in America

  • InfiniteWars
    InfiniteWars 8 giờ trước

    just shows how money can get you away from serious consequences

  • snirp
    snirp 9 giờ trước

    why fly a 737 when you can fly a 1939

  • J.C. Schutte
    J.C. Schutte 9 giờ trước

    So Boeing & The Federal Aviation Association are to be sued. They were the real culpritz. Big question still remain: Why couldnt the pilots not switch off the auto pilot program mode and change to manual pilot mode?

  • Not Human
    Not Human 9 giờ trước

    Malaysian airlines wants to know your location

  • Chris Marsh
    Chris Marsh 9 giờ trước

    Fascinating, well presented video.

  • john walker
    john walker 9 giờ trước

    My biggest problem with this is it's not the first time, (Not that this tradegy was). Titanic had to sink so we all got a place on a lifeboat.
    The Pinto car was a firebomb waiting to be set off by a rear end shunt.
    Chernobyl was a disaster waiting to happen.
    Hopefully the People who lost their lives were not in vain.
    But do we seriously think anyone cares who can do something about this?
    No the share price dip has seen to that.

  • Bernie Sanders
    Bernie Sanders 9 giờ trước


  • Mitchy Mitch
    Mitchy Mitch 9 giờ trước

    Money and greed

  • Simon Jenner
    Simon Jenner 9 giờ trước

    Boeing has badly harmed itself here as a corporation. And those responsible should be investigated for criminal negligence. As it is, Boeing’s Board of Directors is on notice that key members of executive management need to be removed and terminated for cause.

  • TheBuddiesForever
    TheBuddiesForever 9 giờ trước

    Airbus is and will always be the best and safe.
    Excellent video which showcases the truth.

  • Marthinn Kehntoozs
    Marthinn Kehntoozs 10 giờ trước

    I'd rather fly on TU-134 than on this

  • Nathan Trujillo
    Nathan Trujillo 10 giờ trước

    Thanks for helping understand this issue better.

  • DYNB
    DYNB 10 giờ trước

    Corporate greed to the rescue!

  • Phumie Ngwane
    Phumie Ngwane 10 giờ trước

    This is so heartbreaking. How many lives have to be lost in the name of greed? How is this company still being allowed to fix their mistake?

  • tram90
    tram90 10 giờ trước

    Switched off this video quickly! Do not MIX speech and music!!

  • Watchman Steven Anderson
    Watchman Steven Anderson 10 giờ trước

    As a former Avionics Technician US Navy, this is a correct analyst of what happened. Thank You Vox.

  • Daniel Berroteran
    Daniel Berroteran 10 giờ trước

    ... I do not justify Boeing for the serious error of the Mcas system which could have managed to correct the problem in the 2 accidents caused but being something badly thought and in this commercial war the opportunity is taken to make firewood of the fallen tree ... It is not the first time that these problems occur in the development of a new or an evolution of an airplane in production, of course, it is an evolution but each new accessory or re design in wings, body or avionics system implies changes that seek more efficiency or get more out of a proven base since it saves millions in making one out of nothing ... the 737 has proven to be one of the most efficient and safest in the world, because since the late 60s more than 10,000 units and has projected more than 4,000 to deliver and build. This has become a scandal, especially for those who have interest that this plane has stumbling blocks to continue selling their products in the aircraft market between 150 and 200 seats and this I say especially for the Chinese and Russians with their joint venture CR929, they were the first to paralyze their fleet ... I hope I'm wrong Show less RESPOND

  • Ed Totman
    Ed Totman 10 giờ trước +1

    Another issue is that Boeing charged more for extra angle-of-attack sensors and indicators. These options are now included for free.

  • alconamx
    alconamx 10 giờ trước

    Great video Vox. Yanks - hang your head in disgrace and shame.

  • Maxime Alarie
    Maxime Alarie 10 giờ trước

    The pilot shouldn't have fought with the plane and just land it when he noticed it was peaking down?

  • Andres Foster
    Andres Foster 10 giờ trước

    Money ruins all

  • Rajesh Shah
    Rajesh Shah 10 giờ trước

    Now Trump should Make AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.Bloody loosers their FAA is more corrupt than our Food inspectors.

  • MrSeedkey
    MrSeedkey 11 giờ trước

    Boeing is surely to blame but so is the certification bodies, it was there job to vet and thoroughly test the designs. How did they approve it so fast? A sinister part of me says maybe there was some influences of Boeing within these bodies

  • silent watcher
    silent watcher 11 giờ trước

    The real reason is poor quality.

  • purwoko arie
    purwoko arie 11 giờ trước

    Well at least boeing can no longer blame lion air for the accident on fligh 610...maybe boeing should consider to redesign and rebranding max8

  • Matrix Dude
    Matrix Dude 11 giờ trước

    737 i the most serial killer i haaate it i jumb when it lands

  • Farzana Nadeem
    Farzana Nadeem 11 giờ trước

    The people that were travelling, may their soul rest in peace ✌🏿

  • Prasad Sawant
    Prasad Sawant 11 giờ trước


  • Igor M
    Igor M 11 giờ trước

    Boeing - just for promotional reasons - had lied about unchanged flying characteristcs, and then omitted the existence of MCAS in this "tablet-training" procedure.
    That's right, good point.
    But isn't it secondary to that MCAS had failed, repeatedly? And I remember news about simple error in MCAS design, saying that data were read from only one of two redundant sensors, making whole MCAS fully dependant on proper working of one device, and unable to cross-check it in case of its failure. What about it, is it unconfirmed? Existence of two sensors points that it was not just a cost cutting, so there stands question about the procedures, about checking and controlling the design. How has it happen that not Boeing nor NTSB had noticed that ?

    QYURRYUS 12 giờ trước


  • GeographyFish
    GeographyFish 12 giờ trước

    Profit over people

  • Lorena Wieshamm
    Lorena Wieshamm 12 giờ trước

    Boeing is trying to fix a hardware problem with software. The 737 Max needs to be re engineered!!!. But that would involve millions or billions of dollars so Boeing took the cheap solution.... What actually killed 346 people is MONEY. Boeing even if you manage to 'fix' this plane, your credibility can't be fixed so easily. And I really hope that whoever put the stamp of approval on the Max 8 will be prosecuted.

  • Mr Paul
    Mr Paul 12 giờ trước

    Good news for Airbus